Minutes
Community Development/Engineering Services Building –
Historic Commissioners Present: Dale Shostrom, Keith Swink, Terry Skibby, Jay Leighton, Allen Crutcher, and Henry Baker, Rob Saladoff
Absent Members: Sam Whitford, Tom Giordano
Council Liaison: Jack Hardesty - Absent
High School Liaison: None Appointed
SOU Liaison: None Appointed
Staff Present: Maria Harris, Senior Planner, Billie Boswell, Administration
CALL TO ORDER – REGULAR MEETING
At 7:08, Chairman Dale Shostrom called the regular meeting to order.
Ms. Leighton suggested a correction be made to the second paragraph of Planning Action #2005-02105 to change the verbiage to “as a modern architectural style”. She made a motion to approve the minutes as amended and it was seconded by Mr. Saladoff. The motion passed unanimously.
PUBLIC FORUM: No speakers
PUBLIC HEARING
Planning Action 2005-01307
Site Review, Conditional Use Permit & Solar Variance
Russ Dale
Chairman Shostrom read the description of the project and verified there were no conflict of interest issues. Most of the Commissioners had visited the site. There were no ex parte contacts.
Ms. Harris reviewed the staff report pointing out that the applicant had changed the orientation of the gable and preserved more of the yard by adding a second story above the garage. The new accessory unit would be finished with board and batten siding to match the original house. Ms. Harris said staff recommended approval of the application.
The applicant, Russ Dale,
There being no further questions of the applicant and no one in the audience wishing to speak, the public meeting was closed.
Mr. Swink said he was very disappointed that vertical siding had covered the original asbestos siding and the new structure would also have vertical siding instead of the more historically appropriate horizontal siding. Chairman Shostrom agreed pointing out that with so many structures in close proximity, the vertical siding became monotonous and did not reflect the varied looks of buildings in that historic time period.
Mr. Crutcher was not supportive of the use of a natural wood finish. He felt it would make the structure stand out even more and not be compatible the painted siding common in the neighborhood.
Ms. Leighton pointed out that changing this building to horizontal siding would make it stand out even more. Also, the original siding would only be covered and not removed so it could potentially be restored at a future date. Mr. Saladoff agreed commenting that the Historic Commission can’t change what has already been done to the original house. Mr. Baker concurred.
Chairman Shostrom felt the asphalt driveway triangle should be removed, the retaining wall reshaped and the landscaping reestablished up to the alley to soften the structure.
Mr. Saladoff was concerned about the extreme turning radius needed to access the garage off the alley. He suggested an access easement be required as a condition to facilitate the turn. Ms. Harris pointed out that the Municipal Code does not address turning radiuses.
Chairman Shostrom moved to recommend approval of the application with the following conditions:
The motion was seconded by Ms. Leighton and approved by a 5-2-majority vote with Mr. Swink and Mr. Skibby opposing.
PLANNING ACTION 2006-00057
247
VARIANCE, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT & SOLAR VARIANCE
MARC VALENS & ANNE GOLDEN
Chairman Shostrom read the description of the project and verified there were no conflict of interest issues. Most of the Commissioners had visited the site. Mr. Saladoff and Mr. Skibby disclosed they had had conversations with a neighbor, Jerome White,
Ms. Harris described the site as very narrow (25 feet) with the existing house not meeting current setbacks. She pointed out Staff’s concern with how the Maximum Permitted Floor Area (MPFA) is calculated when portions of the ceiling are less than the seven feet of headroom referred to in the code (AMC 18.24.040 I). She asked the Historic Commissioners to clarify if the intent of the MPFA included useable living space in existing and new spaces that are less than seven feet high. In this application, if all floor space were counted regardless of ceiling height, then the proposed additions would exceed the MPFA by 135 square feet.
Chairman Shostrom felt the formula used by the Building Code to identify livable space should be used. Mr. Crutcher believed any existing space used as living space should be counted regardless of ceiling height.
There were no further questions of staff.
The applicant, Marc Valens,
Chairman Shostrom asked if the applicant knew how much of the Master Bedroom ceiling was seven feet or higher? Mr. Valens said all of it except where the corners of the room dropped down.
Mr. Crutcher questioned the height of the wood stove vent, feeling it was extremely tall and visible and requiring additional bracing. Mr. Valens pointed out the pictures were somewhat deceiving, but it would meet building code requirements.
Mr. Skibby asked about the window framing. Mr. Valens said they would match the existing, original windows.
Jerome White,
There being no further comments from the audience, the public meeting was closed.
Ms. Harris pointed out that the plans show a composition roof but the narrative identifies the desire to use a metal roof to facilitate rainwater collection. Mr. Skibby said that metal roofs are not historically common. Mr. Crutcher agreed but also feels support for dwindling resources should be considered.
Mr. Skibby was concerned that the architectural details shown on the plans were insufficient. He would like to see more information on the porches and railings.
Chairman Shostrom noted that the drawings are inconsistent from view to view. He also felt the four-foot balcony was a non-historic element and not very usable or necessary. Shostrom suggested the front porch roof match the garden room roof for consistency.
Ms. Leighton indicated that the shakes shown on the plans for the new addition did not match the fish scale shakes on the original front of the house. Recommended using the decorative shakes only on the front and 5” straight-cut shakes on the south alley and rear gable ends. It was agreed that the siding should match the original siding including the groove size. The Commissioners also agreed that the wood-clad windows would be preferred, but if vinyl windows are used, they should match the existing window design details.
The Commissioners were also concerned about the extra wide fascia board and soffitt detail and requested it match the front.
Chairman Shostrom made a motion to recommend continuing the application to the March 8, 2006 meeting with the following comments and items addressed:
Mr. Swink seconded the motion and it was approved by a 6-1-majority vote with Mr. Baker opposing.
PLANNING ACTION 2006-00069
VARIANCE
PHILIP LANG
Chairman Shostrom read the description of the project and verified there were no conflict of interest issues. Most of the Commissioners had visited the site. There were no ex parte contacts.
Ms. Harris explained that the applicant is requesting a variance to add detached living space for a library and a greenhouse in the form of a 2nd story addition above the existing garage built in 1994. The main house was built in 1992. There is also a separate guest cottage remodeled in 1994. The proposed addition is 14 feet from the rear property line instead of 20 feet as required for a second story. Ms. Harris pointed out that the majority of the homes in the neighborhood are one-story.
Mr. Saladoff asked and Ms. Harris confirmed that the garage structure is 6 feet from the side property line not 5 feet as stated in the Pre-application documents.
The applicant, Philip Lang,
There being no further questions of the applicant and no one in the audience wishing to speak, the public meeting was closed.
Mr. Skibby stated he felt the variance request was self-imposed since the second-story greenhouse could be eliminated and built in a different location within the yard. Chairman Shostrom did not believe there were unique and unusual circumstances to justify the variance.
Mr. Crutcher felt the alley was becoming too dense and another second-story structure close to the property line would add to problem. Chairman Shostrom pointed out that the historic neighborhood was primarily single-story houses. He also added that a deck and greenhouse are not historically compatible.
Several of the Commissioners did not like the look and design of the old deck railing running around the perimeter of the second story. Most felt the bulk and scale were not compatible.
Ms. Leighton made a motion to recommend denial of the variance for the following reasons:
Mr. Skibby seconded the motion and the motion to recommend denial was supported unanimously.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
OLD BUSINESS
February 9th |
Terry, Allen, Keith |
February 16th |
Terry, Dale, Henry, Jay |
February 23rd |
Terry, Allen, Sam |
March 2nd |
Terry, Sam, Tom |
March 9th |
Terry, Rob, Keith |
B. Project Assignments for Planning Actions
PA #2000-120 |
485 “A” Street (Steve Hoxmeier) |
Shostrom |
PA #2004-026 |
|
Giordano |
PA #2004-102 |
832 “A” Street (Ilene Rubenstein) |
Saladoff |
PA #2004-110 |
|
Whitford |
PA #2004-138 |
|
Saladoff |
PA #2004-154 |
|
Leighton |
PA-#2004-160 |
|
Swink |
PL#2005-00869 |
|
Swink |
PL#2005-01043 |
|
Leighton |
PL#2005-01226 |
820 “C” Street (Randy & Helen Ellison) |
Shostrom |
PL#2005-01674 |
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Skibby |
PL#2005-02105 |
|
Crutcher |
PL#2005-01307 |
|
Shostrom |
C. National Historic Preservation Week – May 21-27, 2006 – Nominations – The spreadsheet showing building activity in the Historic District during 2005 was passed out and reviewed. Any additional nominations should be called or emailed to Ms. Boswell. It was agreed that the March 8, 2006 Historic Commission meeting would begin at 6:00 PM to allow time to go over the nominations. Mr. Swink said he had been working with City Staff on arrangements to show the “Blue Vinyl” film during the event.
D. City Design Review Process Memo – Mr. Giordano was absent. Discussion to be continued to next meeting.
E. Co-Sponsorship with Conservation Commission for Fall Workshop – No Report
F. Lithia Springs National Register Nomination – No Report
G. Multiple Listing Survey for National Register of Historic Places – No Report
H. Single Family Residential Design Standards – No Report
I. Brown Bag Meeting – No Report
NEW BUSINESS –
A. Ms. Leighton brought to the Commission’s attention the intent of a developer (Sage Development) proposing to convert the 4.3-acre Helman Baths property into a large housing development. A public meeting was being held on February 16th at 6:30 PM. Since the Helmans were one of the founding families of Ashland, she felt it was important for the Historic Commission to do what they could to protect the historic buildings still standing.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
The next Historic Commission meeting will be on March 8, 2006 at 6:00 pm in the Siskiyou Room. This meeting is ONE HOUR earlier than regularly scheduled.
With a motion by Shostrom and a second by Leighton, it was the unanimous decision of the Commission to adjourn the meeting at 11:20 p.m.